John  Wanless

John Wanless

Male Abt 1749 - 1828  (~ 79 years)

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  • Name John Wanless 
    Born Abt 1749  Alford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 23 May 1750  Alford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Court 15 Jan 1793  London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • The following is recorded in London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1925.

      15 Jan 1793, in the 33rd year of the reign of King George III
      Sanderson Mayor
      This day Mrs. Elizabeth Hooper, widow of Mr. John Hooper late clerk to the sitting Justices at Guildhall, presents unto the court John Wanless to be made a free of this city as the first of two granted unto her by this court the fifteenth day of January 1793 for the purposes in the Order mentioned. It is ordered that the said John Wanless be admitted into the freedom of this city by redemption in the company of Plaisterers, paying unto W. Chamberlain for this city the sum of 46 shillings and 8 pence .
      N.B. If this order is not executed in 3 months, it is void.
      "Haberdasher" is written at the bottom and circled.
      Along the side is written sideways "Son of Benjamin, of Alford, Lincolnshire, surgeon".
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      Some notes about this document: First, John had to be at least 21 to be a freedman. Second, normally freedman status would mean he had completed his apprenticeship, but in this case, he is a freedman by "redemption", which means he purchased his position in the livery company from a Corporation officer (Mrs. Hooper, who would have inherited her deceased husband's status) who had been granted a limited number of positions to "present", often as a reward for services rendered. Perhaps John was already a haberdasher when he arrived in London; perhaps he had already completed his apprenticeship in Lincoln, or perhaps he never served a formal apprenticeship. The livery company one joined (in this case, the Plaisterers) was one of about 100 established companies, of which some were easier and cheaper to join than others, so by the early 1800s the company one joined often bore no relationship to one's occupation. We are lucky the clerk wrote "haberdasher" at the bottom, or we might have assumed John was a plaisterer (plasterer).
    Occupation draper, mercer, haberdasher, hosier  [4
    • haberdasher & hosier - 1793 freedman grant, 1794 & 1805-1807 trade directory
      draper - wife Mary's death cert
      mercer - son Joshua's marriage to Phoebe Cannon
    Residence 1794  St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    10 Cripplegate 
    • 1794 Kent's Dir of London
      Wanless, John, Haberdasher & Hosier, 10, Cripplegate
    Residence 1790-1799  St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence Between 1806 and 1828  Herefordshire Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Lived in Herefordshire sometime before his death; described as "of Hatton-garden, late of Hereford" in daughter Mary's 1827 wedding announcement.
    Retired 1806 
    • The Morning Chronicle (London, England), Friday, May 16, 1806
      To Haberdashers, Drapers, Straw Manufacturers and others requiring extensive Shops and Premises, in a public situation, by Messrs. Winstanely & Son at Garraway's on Monday next at 12: A beneficial for 21 years of an excellent spacious shop near 57 feet in depth with back warehouse and convenient dwelling house most eligibly situate No. 10 Fore-street near Cripplegate Church, many years successfully established in the haberdashery line...now in the possession of Mr. John Wanless, retiring into the country.
    Residence 1805-1807  St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    10 Fore St., Cripplegate 
    • WANLESS John, hosier and haberdasher, 10 Fore St., Cripplegate.
      [Holden's Triennial Directory of 1805, 1806 & 1807]
    Residence May 1828  Holborn St. Andrew, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Hatton Garden (a street) 
    WILL 30 May 1828  Hatton Garden, Holborn St. Andrew, London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • (abstract)
      Last will and testament of John Wanless of Hatton Garden in the county of Middlesex, Gentleman
      - whereas I have given my daughter Mary on her marriage with Mr. William Haynes the sum of 500 lbs, and I give to my daughter Ann the like sum of 500 lbs in the event of her marriage before her mother's decease
      - to my dear wife, all the household furniture plate china linen and glass for her own use for ever
      - to my son Joshua Paul Wanless the sum of 300 lbs to be paid immediately after the decease of my said wife, which I intend to be a legacy to him over and above his third share of the residue of my estate in [consequence?] of his having been very little [expense?] to me in advancing him in the world
      -to my dau. Ann 20 lbs per year for clothes as long as my wife lives and my dau. remains unmarried
      -residue of estate to my dear wife and after her death, to my three children share & share alike equally, with the 500 lbs to each dau. to be considered an advance on their shares
      -if dau. Mary dies without issue before my wife, her 500 lbs goes to my son-in-law William Haynes
      -if Ann marries and dies without issue...
      -executors my wife and my friends Charles [Dimes? Danes?] of [Sandhall?] Gentleman and Charles [Gould?] of Coventry Ribbon-[coodoor?]
      -witness William Dimes, 27 Princes Street Bank
    Died Oct 1828  Holborn St. Andrew, London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried 2 Oct 1828  St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    PROB 9 Oct 1828  London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Ermine(?) Sarah [Fflotator?} of #102 [Nowgate?], London, a widow, testified that she had known John Wanless late of Hatton Garden in the parish of Saint Andrew Holborn for several years and seen him sign his name many times and that appeared to be his valid signature on the will. She knew of his death & burial.
      Proved at London 11th Oct. by the oaths of Mary Wanless, Charles Danes(?) and Charles [Gould?] the executors. Administration granted.
    Notes 
    • We have no proof that Mary Good is the Mary who had children with John, but it seems like the most likely marriage:
      St. George, Hanover Square
      3 April 1789 John Wanless of St Giles Cripplegate & Mary Good of this parish, by licence.
      -- note that all John's children were christened at St Giles Cripplegate starting in 1790.

      Possible relative:
      Wanless, Eliz Spouse: Dewick, Edw
      Marriage Date:1807
      Parish:HOLBORN ST ANDREW

      Note there is a Wm & Elizabeth Wanless who had kids in St Giles Cripplegate 1780-1784 - might he be John's brother? This Wm may have died in 1785 as there is a matching burial at St Giles but it doesn't give his age, just says "a man".

      Possible mother - this woman was buried in St Giles Cripplegate: Ann WANLESS, a woman, cause of death: Aged, buried 7th March 1798
      -- John's mother WAS named Ann and would be in her late 70s or early 80s if she was roughly the same age as Benjamin.

      Seems like the name Joshua must belong originally to John's or Mary's father - it must have some meaning since they used it for their first son. No Joshua Wanlesses that we know of in this line. No Joshua Goods of the right timeframe to be Mary's dad, although there is one who could be her brother.
    Person ID I2  11: John Wanless & Mary Good(?) | top of tree
    Last Modified 17 Aug 2014 

    Father Benjamin Wanless,   b. Abt 1716, Alford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother Anne Smith,   b. Est 1710-1730, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 18 Sep 1748  Lincoln (St. Margaret In The Close), Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F14  Group Sheet

    Family Mary Good,   b. Abt 1765, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Apr 1842, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 77 years) 
    Married 3 Apr 1789  St. George Hanover Square, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Joshua Paul Wanless,   b. Est Dec 1789, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1789, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 0 years)
     2. Joshua Paul Wanless,   b. 1790, London, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Jul 1877, 5 Clifton Road, Moseley Road, Birmingham, Warwick, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 87 years)
     3. Ann Wanless,   b. 7 May 1792, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. John Wanless,   b. 1 Jan 1797, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Mar 1797, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     5. Mary Wanless,   b. 8 Mar 1799, St. Giles Cripplegate, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 11 Dec 2011 
    Family ID F1  Group Sheet

  • Sources 
    1. [S14] Burial record.
      age 79 at death

    2. [S16] British Isles Vital Records Index (LDS), 2nd edition.

    3. [S17] Freedman Admission Papers, (Ancestry.com).

    4. [S11] Death record, of wife Mary refers to him as 'a draper' (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S14] Burial record.
      John WANLESS, Haberdasher of Hatton Garden, age 79
      #1306 (plot number? or just burial number?)