John Wanless

John Wanless[1]

Male 1783 - 1871  (88 years)

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  • Name John Wanless 
    Born 1783  Balmacron, Meigle, Perth, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened 26 Oct 1783  Meigle, Perth, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Residence 9 Jun 1812  Montquhanie, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • John Wanless, Montwhannie, Cupar-Fife was elected a corresponding member of the Caledonian Horticultural Society on 9 June 1812. [Memoirs of the Caledonian Horticultural Society, Edinburgh, vol. 2 (1818) and vol. 3, 1825] http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924070846583;view=1up;seq=34]
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      Note from Holly: Mountquhanie is a farm with an associated (slightly different spelling) Montquhanie House) a few km west of Kilmany; it is unclear if it is in the parish Kilmany or adjacent Cupar, but his children in this period were baptized at Kilmany.
    Residence 1808-1819  Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1825-1829  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Probably still lived there in 1837 when dau. Helen married there.
    Census 1841  Blebe Craigs, Kemback, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • (parish 433 ED 2 pg 3)
      John Wanless, age 50, gardener, not born in county
      Agnes, 50, born in county
      Agnes, 20, born in county
      Jean, 12, born in county
      Thomas Anderson, 2, born in county
      -- note this census rounded ages down to nearest 5 yrs, so John may almost 55. Thomas Anderson is their grandson.
    Census 1851  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 78, Balass Cottage
      John Wanless H 67 Gardener, Perth, Meigle
      Agnes Lister W 67 Fife, Kemback
      Agnes Wanless D 34 Fife, Kilmany
      Thomas Anderson GS 13 Fife, Springfield
      Helen Anderson GD 10 Fife, Kemback
      John Anderson GS 8 Paisley, Renfrewshire
    Residence Nov 1851  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Ballas Cottage 
    • Per dau. Agnes's marriage record.
    Census 1861  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • From index: (420/00 004/00 page 008)
      1 Kirkgate Street
      John Wanless, head, married, 77, Gardener, b. Perth, Meigle
      Agness, wife, 77 b. Fife, Kemback
      Helen A. , daughter, married, 48 Formerly Domestic Servant, b. Fife, Kilmany
      John Anderson, Grandson, single, 19, Printer Compositor, b. Renfrewshire, Paisly
      2 rooms with one or more windows.
    Residence 1861  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    2 Millgate 
    • 1861 PAROCHIAL DIRECTORY FOR FIFE AND KINROSS
      Parish of Cupar
      Gardeners
      Wanless, John, (Jobbing) 2 Millgate
      Lister, Colville, (Jobbing) St Catherines Park
      -- possible relative of John's wife Agnes Lister?
      [http://www.fifefhs.org/Records/Directory/cupar.htm]
    Occupation Abt 1800-1871  Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • gardener
    Died 1 Mar 1871  Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Notes 
    • Link to parents based on birth year (per age in 1851 census) and family custom of the women naming their daughters after their own grandmothers. For example, John's dau. Helen named her daughter Helen Skeen Anderson, providing the link to Helen Skeen. And John's granddaughter Margaret (d/o John & Ann Adams) named her dau. Anne Adams McDougall, and Anne's daughter in turn named her daughter Margaret Wanless Forrester. John's son James named his son George Skene Wanless.

      Naming patterns for his children - relationship is from child:
      Elspet - mother's mother
      James - father's father
      Helen - father's mother
      Agnes - mother
      Abigail - ?? not a mother's sister or father's sister
      Robert - ??
      John - father
      Agnes again
      Jane
      -- I'm surprised there wasn't a David after the mother's father, early on...
    Person ID I76  45: James Wanless & Helen Skeen
    Last Modified 25 May 2016 

    Father James Wanless,   b. Est 1743-1753, Scotland (probably Meigle, Perth) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1 Oct 1829, Dundee, Angus, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 76 years) 
    Mother Helen SKEEN,   b. Est 1743-1753, Scotland (probably Meigle, Perth) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 23 Oct 1773  Meigle, Perth, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Family ID F30  Group Sheet

    Family Agnes Litster or Lister,   b. Abt 1783, Kemback, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 May 1869, Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 86 years) 
    Married 3 Jul 1807  Kemback, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Children 
     1. Elspet Wanless,   b. 1808, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. James Wanless,   b. Est Jan 1810, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1881, Selby, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 71 years)
     3. Helen Wanless,   b. 1812, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Nov 1896, St. Giles, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
     4. Agnes Wanless,   b. 1814, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Aug 1884, Woodend, Cathcart, Renfrew, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
     5. Abigail Wanless,   b. 1817, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 May 1871, Bridgeton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 54 years)
     6. Robert Wanless,   b. 1819, Kilmany, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Sep 1909, Morningside, Edinburgh, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years)
     7. John Wanless,   b. Abt 1825, Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Nov 1899, Calinton, Edinburgh, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 74 years)
     8. Jane WANLASS,   b. 15 Apr 1829, Cupar, Fife, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 6 May 2003 
    Family ID F31  Group Sheet

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 26 Oct 1783 - Meigle, Perth, Scotland Link to Google Earth
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  • Documents
    Death cert of John Wanless, 1871, Edinburgh
    Death cert of John Wanless, 1871, Edinburgh
    s/o James Wanless & Helen Skeen, husband of Agnes Lister/Litster

  • Sources 
    1. [S7] Scottish Church Records (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (1995 09 21 Edition).

    2. [S6] Parish register, AT SCOTLANDSPEOPLE (Reliability: 3).
      26 Oct - John son to James Wanless & Helen Skeen in Balmakrim
      -- Balmakrim was probably Balmacron, in Meigle

    3. [S3] Parish record (per Romeril film), HIS DEATH REC & HIS CHILDREN'S DEATH RECS (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S6] Parish register.
      parish of Cupar, Fife
      1 Mar 1871 Wannless, John, 87, gardener & widower of Agnes Lister, d. at South Toll, Cupar, parents not stated; Helen Anderson a dau. present.

    5. [S15] Surname Index to Perth Marriages, M113794 (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S16] Old Parochial Registers, Film 1040112 Frame 252 (Reliability: 3).
      Agnes Litster & John Wanlass